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I appreciate the tui.
- Easy efficient remote access. Pixel streaming and things like GTK Broadway are out. Needs a proper protocol/standard that would send styling-neutral primitives (and that is not X11 forwarding), and the entire toolkit architecture built around that. Something like SPICE/QXL but more semantics-aware? Not sure, might be too low level and chatty.
- Staying in the terminal. This is a matter of window management, though a toolkit can offer good defaults so this doesn't feel janky.
- Keyboard-first. Trivial. "GUI is for filthy mouse casuals" is a ludicrous idea.
- Low bloat. Web and things like GTK Broadway are out.
I haven't seen two similar opinions on actual architecture and stack, however being available in Rust will be a great start.
we need more experiments with X11 interfaces
Imgui is also good for this
Same concept, but github repos now.
But now other people's code is just a starting point for me forking an app to do exactly what I want it to - it's inspiration because code is cheap.
Of course for larger projects we will still need solid components underlying them, but what you're really talking about is just maturity - it's very easy to produce a lot of output now but you can't replace actual history or having more then exactly 1 maintainer.
When Claude added it, I immediately hated it since you click into the terminal and accidentally click something.
I don't mind something that requires a modifier key like Shift+click to follow a URL
But so many times now I'll click to get focus and now that's selected some option or opened some pane.
If I wanted that, I'd use the Claude Desktop app!
Unfortunately, of the popular DE's, this is only supported in Xfce (?), and it's not supported in Windows or macOS afaik.
Or can we do it with a cli wrapper process?
I don't care about clicking into the terminal. I don't understand why people do this more and more.
You just need to use your keyboard shortcuts correctly and navigate the tmux/kitty session as it's intended to.
See that's all a matter of workflow? You don't understand it because it's just not for youWhy is this a good thing? Have a help you your access via ? and document what the keys are. Don't dumb the interface down.
I'm fine with K9s and lazygit key-driven interfaces.
I guess one thing that's good about a clickable TUI is that maybe it's easier to approach for some, wihtout releasing yet another memory hog Electron App?
Of course with all the running around with AI programming, it would be nice if we could task sometime to making remote desktop not suck on Linux.
It seems we cannot move on from them and I think we should.
It is a shame because surely there must be something better than terminals and TUIs.
https://github.com/nklmilojevic/sofka
That's the actual k9s successor imho!
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